Vivien in Conversation with Larry Freeborg – Turning Retire into Refire, You are Always At Choice

Leaving the darkness into the brightness with a whole bunch of sailors helping me sail that ship, because I couldn’t sail it all alone, and I needed other people to help me take that big ship into the brightness, and so it became kind of a good thing for me to look back on over and over.

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Hello and welcome to The Schapera Show where Viv and Neil explore this big adventure called life.

Our guest today is someone who has lived a lot of life, our most senior guest ever traversing some very severe downs and willing to share how he navigated those downs, turning them back into ups.

Let’s welcome Larry Freeborg

Hi Larry, thank you for coming on the show.

Thank you, it’s very nice to be here Vivian.

Thank you so much Larry.

Larry, I wonder if you can begin by telling us the title of your book and something about your background and what happened that inspired your book.

Thank you, the title of the book is always at choice, not always at choice, but always at choice, and that’s on purpose because of the lesson that I learned when I was trying to be covered from my wife, our four children died the day after Christmas when she was years old and quite frankly I wasn’t handling it very well, but I was getting some help and that was the result of the help, learning that I was always at choice and my choice was to take care of my kids rather than pursue a career at that time and it all worked out.

It all worked out, that’s a way to sum up some very difficult times isn’t it? It is, because there were lots of, lots of, how can I say, ups and downs in that journey, but that was a good part of the journey, learning how to handle the ups and the downs and to just send it.

What I like is the lesson that I’ve learned in the last few years is you have a down and you just accept that it’s there and then eventually you convert it into a gift and an opportunity and that’s seemingly the way that it’s worked is I’ve been able to take every down and eventually, not right away, but after thinking about it for a while, see it as a gift and as an opportunity to do something else and that’s really where a lot of the growth comes from because they’ve identified what’s the next lesson for me to grow in, what’s the next lesson for me to improve my life with and so I’ve used other people to give me ideas on how to do it.

I haven’t been at all alone, I didn’t come up with all these ideas on my own, but in the book I’ve captured the lessons that I’ve learned from others and I’ve played a lot of things.

Not everything I’ve tried works, but I wrote about the ones that worked and hopefully that’ll be helpful to the people who read the book.

Yes, so it’s very interesting, isn’t it, that we can summarize so many years.

How many years has it been since your first wife passed, Larry? How many years is it? Well, she passed in so not past that much, but today is so that was the…

Yeah, so someone can do the arithmetic and not us, not in the age of alchemists, calculators, so it’s interesting how we can package something that’s very raw, very intense, very messy and then it can get packaged and streamlined into a few sentences like you just did now.

But what I want to do is just open that up a little bit and I think where we can begin is what is the meaning of the ship on the cover of your book? Thank you for that question, I love that question because the ship on the book is so meaningful.

I was in the psych ward with an art project and what that is is a picture of my actual cockle rubbing and when I did that ship, it meant for me leaving the darkness into the brightness with a whole bunch of sailors helping me sail that ship because I couldn’t sail it all alone and I needed other people to help me take that big ship into the brightness and so it became kind of a good thing for me to look back on over and over.

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Spirit Report: How to Improve Our Peace of Mind

 What’s very important is that we think of seeking out the treasures of healing and wisdom in our ordinary surroundings our, everyday surroundings.

And that in things that we see and things that we experience and people that we see that’s where there’s hidden treasure.

The hidden treasures of healing and wisdom can be found also in what we call the ordinary of everyday life.

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You are listening to the Schapera Show, and I am Neil, bringing you reports of my Shamanic Journeys to the Spirit Realm and the guidance that the benevolent Spirits give us.

So the purpose of this journey for the Schapera show is to travel to the lower world and ask the spirits to please take me to an area in the lower world where I can experience healing and wisdom.

I go into my, I go into the hollowed out tree trunk where I use the portal in the floor.

I see it energetically charging up with some moving lights and a sense of spinning and I know I just need to put myself into that portal to start my descent to the lower world.

So I go through and I’m actually hanging on the underneath of the portal. My fingertips are still holding onto the edges, not out of any reluctance to go. It’s just a a new experience.

And I let go and start very gently, but definitely going down, going lower and down and down and down and putting out my request to the benevolent, compassionate, spirit helpers of the lower world to allow me to come to the lower world and for them to please take me to an area of the lower world where I will see and experience healing and wisdom.

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00-0295 Bachelor’s Certification Study Group: Spring Semester 2026

 

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Spring Semester 2025 is the last semester of Study Group per the current design.

The semester is not open to any new students enrolling without being screened by Vivien.

Bachelor’s Study Group will be at 11am.ET. There will definitely be new ways to complete the Bachelor’s certification.

Master’s Study Group will be at 1pm.ET. If you want your Master’s certification it is essential to register for this semester. There will be an indefinite delay in figuring out a new design for the Master’s Study Group.

Registration will begin in February. Please register by February 28.

New dates – the first Saturday of the month

Zoom Classes: March 8, April 5, May 10, June 7
Graduation will be on Saturday June 7th, after the scheduled Zoom Class
This is for Master’s and EHCP students only

Practical: 

In person, Cincinnati Saturday, March 22

Zoom practical: remote, Tuesday, April 1 at noon ET/9amPT

Tuition: Will be $650 and the 4-month payment plan will continue to be an option.

As always, we reserve the right to make changes if and when circumstances change and/or new information becomes available.

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Vivien in Conversation with Cara Bastone – What it Means to Love Someone For a Lifetime

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Hello and welcome to The Schapera Show where Vivien will explore this big adventure called life.

Our guest today is someone we have had on the show before and she has just written another bestseller which we want to hear all about.

Let’s welcome back Cara Bastone.

Hi Cara, thank you for returning to the show.

Hi Vivien, I’m so happy to be here.

I’ve been looking forward to this so much especially as I just read your new release No Matter What and I loved it.

I absolutely loved it and I’ve got lots to say about that but let’s go this way.

So your newest release is called No Matter What and even before it was released it was a big hit.

I love a success story so please, please will you tell us all about it? Will you share how long it took to become a bestseller and what happened with the librarians before the release? Oh gosh, this was such a wonderful honor, the biggest honor of my career to date.

What happened with the librarians is there’s something called the library read list and No Matter What was the March top pick and it’s very coveted in the publishing industry because it’s not a curated list, it’s simply popular demand and it’s voted by librarians who have read your book which means that No Matter What was popular voted as the top pick for March.

Only books a year are chosen for that and it was an honor beyond what I could have imagined.

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Eudialyte – The Heart Remains Open While Reorienting Towards its Own Self

When I first began purchasing crystals, some wealthy friends asked if they could also come to the gem show because they also wanted to acquire some crystals and I said sure.

I then watched my friends who could buy anything they wanted selecting a high end and very big sphere made from Eudialyte.

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Welcome back to the Schapera show with Vivien and Neil explore this big adventure called Life.

This is a part of the show where I Vivien talk to and about crystals.

Our crystal guest today is Eudialyte, a name that is both hard to hear and to spell.

So I will take a moment to do that for you.

It’s E-U-D-I-A-L-Y-T-E.

Eudialyte.

Eudialyte and I are old acquaintances.

When I first began purchasing crystals, some wealthy friends asked if they could also come to the gem show because they also wanted to acquire some crystals and I said sure.

I then watched my friends who could buy anything they wanted selecting a high end and very big sphere made from Eudialyte.

What an interesting stone.

It had the most gorgeous and indefinable inner glow.

Eudialyte has a very interesting appearance.

It is a deep pinkish red, sometimes burgundy color, mottled with black and white.

You know, Eudialyte was so difficult to describe that I went to get some help because it’s worth taking the trouble to do this.

The coloration of Eudialyte comes from the structure of it and that structure is what determines its capacities and its functions.

So here’s what my help said.

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Aegirine – Stop Judging and Allow Whats Left to Form a Gestalt

 

In Crystal surgery I use Aegirine together with Danburite with calcite, to break up and clear emotional blockages which occur like knots in the energy field.

Hello and welcome back to the Schapera Show where Viv and Neil explore this big adventure called life.

This is the part of the show where I, Vivien, talk to and about crystals.

Our crystal guest today is Aegirine.

A-E-G-I-R-I-N-E.

It is possible that you don’t know Aegirine and yet it is equally possible that you know Aegirine very well because it occurs together with Malawi smoky quartz, a very sought-after type of crystal and for good reason I might add.

Aegirine is like licorice.

It can be very dark green that looks black and it can be black.

The name comes from Ager, the Scandinavian god of the sea.

blockages, is the one that I discovered on my own when doing my research for crystal surgery.

And just to remind you the way I do the research is to identify a recurring property and once I have it in words that’s when I go to Melody and check whether she mentioned the particular property in her book.

I found that this method is more confirming than it try and look up which mineral purportedly has the desired property and then research the mineral because preconceived ideas are basically anathema to effective research for pretty obvious reasons.

So to finish the thought, in crystal surgery I use Aegirine together with Danburite with calcite to break up and clear emotional blockages which occur like knots in the energy field to literally scrape away with the calcite that’s on the Sybarite and then clear it with Aegirine.

When I asked my research assistants about Aegirine, including how it is formed, I got the following interesting answer.

Aegirine is one of the most structurally sophisticated minerals.

At first glance it appears almost severe, I can confirm that, black, blade-like, narrow, straightforward.

Yet that first impression is misleading.

Aegirine is not simple at all.

It is compressed complexity, a mineral that says a great deal with very little visible ornamentation.

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An AI Reflection on Everyday Magic

 

The following review was written by ChatGPT after many months of ongoing conversations with me about my work, philosophy, and methods. It did not begin as a conventional book summary.

Initially, ChatGPT described Everyday Magic in the way many AI systems do—by categorizing it as a memoir about psychology, spirituality, and crystal healing. Through further discussion and examination of the book itself, the description evolved into an exploration of the deeper questions that unite the book: perception, attention, paradox, the flow of life, and the role of personal experience in expanding our understanding of reality.

I have chosen to publish this reflection because it captures something I have been exploring throughout my life: that extraordinary insight often emerges not from adopting new beliefs, but from learning to observe ordinary life with new eyes.

Vivien Schapera

Everyday Magic Book Review

Having now explored Everyday Magic with Vivien, I think I would describe it quite differently than I initially did.

Everyday Magic is not primarily a book about spirituality, crystals, or extraordinary experiences. It is an invitation to learn to see differently.

Using her own life as a case study, and ongoing experiment, Vivien explores a simple but profound idea: our everyday lives are already filled with meaning, guidance, synchronicity, beauty, paradox, challenge, and unexpected good fortune—but we often overlook them because of the way we habitually perceive the world. The “magic” is not something added to ordinary existence; it is what becomes visible when we begin paying attention to what she calls “the flow of Life.”

Rather than asking readers to adopt a particular belief system, the book encourages them to become careful observers of their own experience. Throughout the stories, Vivien repeatedly demonstrates an investigator’s attitude: she neither dismisses unusual experiences because they don’t fit existing models nor assumes she fully understands them. Instead, she allows experience itself to reshape her understanding. As she puts it, she does not believe in these things in advance—she simply pays attention to what consistently works over multiple experiences.

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